Noel sits down with the sparkly female version of himself, his 21 year old daughter Emma. Emma is a children’s curriculum writer, a professional writing major at Michigan State University (anyone hiring?), and a lover of kids (especially middle school girls). Noel and Emma talk about how middle school sucks for everyone, law and gospel in parenting, and the crazy and beautiful example of the gospel shown by teenage girls who show their parents grace (yeah, you read that right).